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Ancient Web: Star Wars vs. Star Trek Put Engineering Math Into Fandom

Some fan arguments end with “because I like this one better.”

Michael Wong brought mechanical engineering to the fight.

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The site opens as an Imperial military recruitment pitch before admitting what it really is: a long-running attempt to compare Star Wars and Star Trek military hardware as rigorously as the source material allows.

Wong says the site was born on August 1, 1998.

Treat the fictional evidence like evidence

The archive is organized around questions that Internet fandom still fights about today: what counts as canon, how evidence should be analyzed, what sources can be trusted, and how far a numerical estimate can reasonably be pushed.

Wong’s engineering background shapes the whole site.

Instead of stopping at screenshots and quotations, he works through weapon effects, ship capabilities, energy estimates, materials, tactics, and other technical questions. He also states the limitation clearly: these are back-of-the-envelope calculations based on fictional observations, not laboratory measurements.

That caveat matters.

A calculation showing one fictional weapon as 50 percent stronger than another may be too imprecise to mean much. A hundredfold difference is a different story. That is a surprisingly sensible epistemology for a website whose front page is trying to recruit you into the Galactic Empire.

The technical notes are equally useful as web history.

The original pages were written in Netscape Composer. Later editing happened in tools including OpenOffice, kwrite, vi, cooledit, and WordPad. Image work moved through scanners, DVD capture, and GIMP. Wong even notes that the site works, with varying success, in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Konqueror, Opera, Mosaic, and Lynx.

That is an entire era of browser culture preserved in the maintenance notes of a fandom argument.

CacheRat’s 1,967 Ancient Web Domains research list includes specialist fan sites because they often contain far more original analysis than the phrase “fan page” suggests.

This one built an engineering department for a war that never happened.

And then documented the browser support.

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Ancient Web: A Physicist Spent Years Taking Star Wars Seriously

In 1995, theoretical astrophysicist Curtis Saxton began doing something the Web was exceptionally good at encouraging: taking a fictional universe far more seriously than anybody had asked him to.

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Saxton’s Star Wars Technical Commentaries treats the films and related material as evidence from a self-consistent reality. The premise is not that Star Wars obeys real physics. The premise is more entertaining: if its world were real, what could be inferred from what appears on screen and in the published material?

The first pages went online near the end of February 1995. Saxton’s FAQ says that at the time he knew of only three other Star Wars websites.

Measure the imaginary spaceship anyway

The commentaries range from warship dimensions and Imperial insignia to planets, standard units, zoology, Death Stars and the injuries of Darth Vader. Screenshots, published references and measurements are compared, contradictions are argued over, and site updates record tiny corrections that would be ridiculous anywhere except a project devoted to getting fictional spacecraft exactly right.

That is why it is good.

The site’s history pages show years of incremental work. A clearer screenshot could change a measurement. A new novel might add a useful technical reference. A museum exhibition could provide better photographs of a model or costume. Correspondents sent observations and source material, and contributions were acknowledged throughout the pages.

Saxton later contributed to official Star Wars: Incredible Cross-Sections books, but his FAQ carefully separates that work from the website. The commentaries remained a private hobby project with their own empirical methodology.

Fandom before feeds

Modern fandom tends to happen in streams: posts, videos, Discord messages and threads that race past and vanish. The Technical Commentaries come from a different model. Pick a question, build a page, revise it for years, and leave the reasoning where the next person can find it.

Webmasters should notice the durability of that structure. Searchable pages with stable subjects accumulate value in a way that a thousand temporary reactions do not.

The site is one of the stranger serious references inside CacheRat’s 1,967 Ancient Web Domains research list. There are many other examples where expertise and obsession became indistinguishable in the best possible way.

Saxton wanted to know how Star Wars worked. The old Web gave him enough room to keep asking.

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